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2006-04-11 03:57:48

I have been contributing to this project for some time now, so I am kinda surprised that BOINCstat hasn’t yet added it to their list. Leiden Classical is a Desktop Computer Grid dedicated to general Classical Dynamics for any scientist or science student. More info here: http://boinc.gorlaeus.net/. I have put a post on one of their forums asking if it is alright that they are added to BOINCstats’s list, but I have yet to hear a response form them.

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2006-04-11 04:53:27

There have already been communications between Leiden and BOINCstats, and discussions on the boards of both sites (the search is your friend, BOINCstats topic, Leiden topic)

It was decided by the Leiden project admin that he didn't want the extra attention of a BOINCstats listing, so the project remains hidden until he decides otherwise. Links to the stats are in the Leiden topic.
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2006-04-11 15:37:53

Might want to remove that URL too, since that will attract the attention he is trying to avoid.
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2006-04-11 16:34:08

I think it's hidden enough if it's not linked on the main site and not listed in the graphical counters.
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2006-04-12 02:40:10

I tried searching through your site earlier... it timed out. I had also tried searching on Leiden’s site for “boinc” and “stats” and got way to much garbage. I also was looking in the other forum than the one u posted on, for I was thinking at the time “This has nothing to do with number crunching, so who would post in there?” Opps, so much for late night work.
Now, with the information that you have so *kindly* provided, I have updated my post on their site. After all, it has been almost 2 months since you posted that information. I guess we will just wait and see if there is any response.

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2006-04-12 14:10:03

Seems a prove of the 'hidden' state that you had such a long search
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2006-04-15 23:41:45
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all this is discussed in the existing Leiden Classical topic

why have the same Q&A twice
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2006-04-16 11:17:38


why have the same Q&A twice

I think it's because othe threads of the past are not visible on the first sight (only last 30 days).
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2006-04-17 14:18:14


I think it's because othe threads of the past are not visible on the first sight (only last 30 days).


yep, and like I said, I did try to search, but was unable to. but corse some people have to point out what has already been pointed out even though there was an explnation for y it wasnt found b4.
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2006-04-18 07:12:14

Well, for me it seems the search works correctly showing both threads:
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2006-04-19 01:58:48
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Well, for me it seems the search works correctly showing both threads:
Search



It works for me now to, but like I said, I did a search for " Leiden Classical " and the page timed out, so i had no was of knowing there was the other thread. I also did not know there was a 30 day thing untill u mentioned it just a bit ago. Had I knowen of the other tread, I would not have created this one. Im sorry.

On another note, I have not recieved any reply to my post at Leiden Classical from any management type, so I am assuming they either are to busy to read the posts or there is no change in the private status.
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2006-04-19 16:03:59
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yep, and like I said, I did try to search, but was unable to. but corse some people have to point out what has already been pointed out even though there was an explnation for y it wasnt found b4.

i didn't mean to sound critical, it was just so that everything Leiden related is kept in a single thread as much as possible, so that when the next person comes along, they only have to read the one thread, rather than multiple ones

also i think the history is set to 30 days be default to reduce server load (there've been quite a few problems lately) but yes, you're right, if you can't find it then starting a new thread is reasonable

On another note, I have not recieved any reply to my post at Leiden Classical from any management type, so I am assuming they either are to busy to read the posts or there is no change in the private status.

i think your assumption is correct, as far as i know, there's been no change of the project's status, and things are still being developed

i remember reading a while ago that the admin wanted to move to a higher capacity server before opening the doors to the general community

if you're interested in that project, monitor the RSS feed, i'm sure there'll be an announcement when something major like a status change occours (the admin there is quite good with letting cunchers know what's happening)
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2006-04-21 13:27:17

The thing I don't understand is that other stats site DO show the results from the Leiden project, for example Mundayweb, Boinc Statistics of the World and Boinc Combined Stats.



As far as I am concerned the project is already out in the open.
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2006-04-21 14:41:48

The thing I don't understand is that other stats site DO show the results from the Leiden project, for example Mundayweb, Boinc Statistics of the World and Boinc Combined Stats.



As far as I am concerned the project is already out in the open.


the project doesn't want it's URL available, becuase they don't want lots of users joining, because they're still in the testing stages and/or need a higher capacity server to handle the load, the project URL isn't displayed in the stats (at least not in signatures) so displaying stats in the signatures is ok



but in a way you're right, if the project doesn't want lots of users, they should disable account creation, then new users are prevented from joining anyway that you cut it (although their site will probably have higher traffic, which they may not want, and they still want to allow testers to join, so disabling account creation and publishing the URL doesn't help that much)

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2006-04-21 15:08:12


The thing I don't understand is that other stats site DO show the results from the Leiden project, for example Mundayweb, Boinc Statistics of the World and Boinc Combined Stats.



As far as I am concerned the project is already out in the open.



Out in the open or not - they requested not to have stats publicly visible, and some of us understand that concept
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2006-04-21 16:30:27

[quote] The thing I don't understand is that other stats site DO show the results from the Leiden project, for example Mundayweb, Boinc Statistics of the World and Boinc Combined Stats.


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2006-04-24 10:56:35

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That's because the other stats site does not drive so much traffic to the project's website as BOINCStats will do if the URL is mentioned publicly on the site it shouldn't be much effort to show the stats from Leiden WITHOUT mentioning their url ...

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2006-04-24 11:16:59

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Seen the fact boincstats is sooo great
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2006-04-24 13:45:54

I really don't see the point in not including this project publicly on BOINCstats



The project is well know all ready and everywhere I look I see mentions to it, so it can't be anymore advertised then it is already

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2006-04-24 14:04:05

I really don't see the point in not including this project publicly on BOINCstats



The project is well know all ready and everywhere I look I see mentions to it, so it can't be anymore advertised then it is already


Because they don't want to

The fact that all the other stats site are showing them, does not mean that Willy should also disrespect their will!
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2006-04-24 14:53:38

The project is well know all ready and everywhere I look I see mentions to it, so it can't be anymore advertised then it is already
There's a difference between knowing about a project, and knowing it's URL

especially as the URL changed not too long ago
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2006-04-24 16:02:58

There's a difference between knowing about a project, and knowing it's URL

especially as the URL changed not too long ago




doesnt take much to type 2 words into Google and get the website up with the correct URL its the 1st choice

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2006-04-24 18:20:01
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doesnt take much to type 2 words into Google and get the website up with the correct URL its the 1st choice

as long as google is aware of the new URL, and what determines which is correct?
google generally displays URLs which are linked to more, first
those that are linked to less, are displayed lower down, so it will take a while for the new URL to become higher, especially if lots of sites are linking to the old URL

it also depends if redirects are used, but that's getting off-topic

the point remains that the project admin doesn't want URLs posted here there and everywhere, willy is only respecting these wishes
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2006-04-25 05:12:24

At lot of replies, however I do not see Leiden appear in my Boincstats signature. I don't see any url in my sig, so what's the problem. Why not include the stats in the sigs and the ranking? That doesn't require an url!

I don't care about a url, but I do care about up-to-date stats. At this moment Boincstats does not seem to be able to supply this. I know I don't have to use Boincstats, but I find it a bit strange that it claimes to be the best stats site for the across the boinc projects but doesn't seem to be able to put the money where the mouth is.

This is the last I have to say about the subject.

Im disappointed with boincstats
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2006-04-25 06:30:40

[quote] At lot of replies, however I do not see Leiden appear in my Boincstats signature. I don't see any url in my sig, so what's the problem. Why not include the stats in the sigs and the ranking? That doesn't require an url!

I don't care about a url, but I do care about up-to-date stats. At this moment Boincstats does not seem to be able to supply this. I know I don't have to use Boincstats, but I find it a bit strange that it claimes to be the best stats site for the across the boinc projects but doesn't seem to be able to put the money where the mouth is.

This is the last I have to say about the subject.

Im disappointed with boincstats ).
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