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janitor
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2011-08-30 15:35:16

Reviewing one of my hosts (http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3e326c66d52c273ced619ea536a82910) reports "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit."

However I know this is not the case - this problem seems to reappear ever so often - please make it go away permanently.


Regards

Bjørn
Gundolf Jahn
 
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2011-08-30 15:50:17
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janitor wrote:
Reviewing one of my hosts (http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3e326c66d52c273ced619ea536a82910) reports "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit."

I made your link active.

Where did you get that host CPID?

Is that host in your host list? Perhaps your BOINC client has assigned a new CPID to that host. That happens from time to time, especially if the computer changes its IP address.

Gruß,
Gundolf
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janitor
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2011-08-30 17:37:27

Is that host in your host list?
Yep, BAM ID is 310879

Perhaps your BOINC client has assigned a new CPID to that host.
Yep, it did that on august 18th.

That happens from time to time, especially if the computer changes its IP address.
So I have noticed - if that's the reason for the "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit." message I would suggest fixing the algoritm as the majority of computers in the world does not have fixed IP addresses.


Regards

Bjørn
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2011-08-30 17:38:49

I made your link active.
Oh - I forgot to say thaat it's still doesn't work.


Regards

Bjørn
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2011-08-30 18:26:32
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janitor wrote:
I made your link active.
Oh - I forgot to say that it's still doesn't work.

With "active" I meant "clickable". Since I'm a normal user, as you are, I can't change anything with your BOINCstats configuration.

There's an [Edit] link in your Message header for one hour after creating it so that you don't have to create a new message for simple changes or addenda. And if you use the [Quote] link in the message you want to answer, you can save a copy&paste operation .

Yep, BAM ID is 310879

Sorry, I should have said "BOINCstats BOINC combined - Host stats" list, the list I linked to in my last message. I have no access to your BAM host list. What happens if you click the statistics link () for host 310879? There, you should find the actual CPID for that host.

I would suggest fixing the algoritm as the majority of computers in the world does not have fixed IP addresses.

Since the CPID is based (partially) on the IP address, there's nothing to fix. And if, it would be a task for the BOINC developers, not the BOINCstats developer.

Gruß,
Gundolf
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2011-08-31 04:51:39

With "active" I meant "clickable".
It's been clickable all the time, the problem is the result of the action.
What happens if you click the statistics link () for host 310879? There, you should find the actual CPID for that host.
Thats actually the problem: When I click the "statstistics icon", the window displays the message "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit." - which I know to be incorrect - and I am therefore unable to provide the CPID.

However, if I click on the name of the host with BAM ID 310879, I get the settings page for the host - the BOINC Cross Project IDentifier on that page is 3e326c66d52c273ced619ea536a82910.

There's an [Edit] link in your Message header for one hour after creating it so that you don't have to create a new message for simple changes or addenda.
Ahh, good to know - thanks for the info.

And if you use the [Quote] link in the message you want to answer, you can save a copy&paste operation
That I know, but I feel I can respond more clearly if I quote the bits I respond to individually - but thanks for the tip.


Regards

Bjørn
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2011-08-31 08:39:41

janitor wrote:
With "active" I meant "clickable".
It's been clickable all the time, the problem is the result of the action.

In your original message it is not an active link, at least not in all browsers.
When I click the "statstistics icon", the window displays the message "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit." - which I know to be incorrect -

How do you know that that host has any credit if you can't see its statistics? If there are no credits exported for that CPID, the corresponding host really doesn't exist for BOINCstats.

However, if I click on the name of the host with BAM ID 310879, I get the settings page for the host - the BOINC Cross Project IDentifier on that page is 3e326c66d52c273ced619ea536a82910.

That shows that the host is known to BAM! (as it should be) but not to BOINCstats (see my previous sentence).

And if you use the [Quote] link in the message you want to answer, you can save a copy&paste operation
That I know, but I feel I can respond more clearly if I quote the bits I respond to individually.

That I do also, as you can see, but my answers are also linked to the answered message in the message header.

Gruß,
Gundolf
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2011-08-31 08:55:44
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In your original message it is not an active link, at least not in all browsers.
The original link is for the specific host, i.e. after I pressed the statistics icon.

How do you know that that host has any credit if you can't see its statistics?
1) Because I can see the host processing work, uploading it and downloading new work. 2) It also did report contributions with a previous BAM ID. 3) The credit / day does not add up unless the contributions from this host is included in the tally.

If there are no credits exported for that CPID, the corresponding host really doesn't exist for BOINCstats.
Fair point, that would indicate that the link for the host between BAM and Boincstats is broken - whether this is on the BAM side or the Boincstats side, I dont know.

Apollogies for any confusion on my part regarding the distinction between BAM and Boincstats - to me they have been (more or less) siamees twins.

[Edit]
Your input prompted me to use the "Stop using Boincstats BAM!" in the tools menu on the host and then using the "add project or manager" menu item. This caused the Host to get a second BAM ID (314787) and for this host I can see the detailed stats. The Host ID is 18275741.

Host with BAM ID 310879 (the "old" BAM ID) last contacted BAM on 2011-08-31 / 7:55;41.
Host with BAM ID 314787 (the "new" BAM ID) last contacted BAM on 2011-08-31 / 9:01:02.


Regards

Bjørn
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2011-09-26 21:14:52
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For what it is worth, here are two of my hosts which give this error (for a few weeks now at least):



Disconnecting and then reconnecting to the BAM account manager fixes it.

I suppose this is something that BAM could handle itself automatically?!
Even without getting a new BAM ID?

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2011-10-22 21:31:20

Further to this thread, I now have a host with a similar problem:

Host ID 325578 is attached to BAM with CPID 19f2bfb5f464b04a771d41a28436fb92. This host entry shows the familiar issues and I therefore disconnect it from BAM and reconnect it - new Host ID is 327041 and CPID is now 8054042e3c19ea8ec509c8f2f0d477de.

The host now displays stats for the host for a day or two - then the all too familiar issue crops up again for the new Host ID. So now I have two host entries in my host list, both are saying the Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit.

For the first Host ID / CPID I understand why, but the second Host ID / CPID I dont understand - especially because the host list shows that the host regularly contacts BOINC and I can see that the host is processing work units.

Can someone please supply a reasonable explanation of this weird behavior? When can this bug be fixed?


Bjørn
Guest

2012-03-14 01:27:09

I too have the same problem with ID and host ID 9487 352830.
I do not understand why I have 2 different id for the very same PC.
You can not put the credits of 352830 in 9487 and then delete the 352830 which is the latest and the 9487 is the oldest town and I want to keep?
Today I also received totally abandons your e-mail:

Dear mg13 [HWU],
The folowing hosts have not communicated with BAM! for a long time and will be removed from our database when they do not communicate within one week. Please note that this does not affect your statistics in any way!

Last communication Hostid Hostname
2011-03-07 16:43:13 9487 MARCO

www.boincstats.com

I do not want it to be deleted but the 9487 is placed and then canceled 352830.

here are the links:
http://boincstats.com/bam/account_host.php?host_id=9487
http://boincstats.com/bam/account_host.php?host_id=352830

Thank you and good day.
DRESI
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2012-04-04 14:14:53

Hello.
I have the same prob since today. "Host doesn't exist in BOINC combined or doesn't have any credit". Just my "flag ship"

Just behind "Host Stats".
"Host Information" is still OK (it looks like OK)

A few lines above here "... this apears sometimes, ... , if Host changes IP-Adress". This isn't correct. I (and most of other Crunchers) get a new IP every day.

Will this prob solve "itsself" or should I do something special?

Host is working, has a lot of of WUs done and is still doing.


Guest

2012-04-04 15:34:08

I keep reading in post all over BStats. let it be, it will sort itself out.
DRESI
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2012-04-04 18:24:08

Thanx, NATE1.
Sorry for inpatience
kiwhite1
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2013-05-19 16:43:38

I am having this issue. I have waited a week to see if it would sort itself out but it has not. One of my host does not have any credit.
BAM! ID 451884
CPID 6562b90371bccbe1ded108219fa5eb8e

Ideas anyone?
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