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[BOINCstats] Willy
 
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2007-05-28 19:08:27

Is there any chance that the above suggestion could be done?


That chance is close to zero. It would defy the idea of BAM! (ease of use). Furthermore I think that it is WCG that should comply to BOINC standards instead of adapting BAM! to them.
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2007-05-30 10:48:18

Alright, I understand this. It's just a shame that they don't support us better then, as they are doing great research.
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2007-06-16 13:37:25

I have the same username/pw and login & use WCG just fine, however the attachment to team it won't communicate - so I set it on the website, but in Bam! it shows this: "No response from project"
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2007-06-17 09:22:44

This thread is over a year old now!
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2007-08-20 18:37:09

WCG announced late last week that they will be going totally BOINC, dropping support for the UD client they were also using.

Here's hoping that that means they will also be making WCG fully AMS-compliant, for benefit of BAM!

For the full release:
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=15715

Also, WCG launched a new sub-project today that is BOINC-only, so that will likely drive some users to migrate to BOINC sooner rather than later.
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2007-10-30 20:18:14

I want to join WCG on BOINC, but my account (xPOD) is already in use in WCG - how can i fix this? Right now I have registered an account on WCG's site as XPOD-USA

how can I BAM! my stats together?
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2007-11-27 06:57:05

if the e-mail account and the password are the same in WCG and you use for BAM!, then use the "find account". Otherwise change the WCG account to be the same as the e-mail and PW used in the BAM! account.
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2007-12-01 12:58:54
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if the e-mail account and the password are the same in WCG and you use for BAM!, then use the "find account". Otherwise change the WCG account to be the same as the e-mail and PW used in the BAM! account.


I have the same problems with WCG. And no, changing email and PW doesn't help. Because WCG wants username and PW for user authentication!
I definitely have the same email and PW for WCG and for BAM but BAM keeps telling me "wrong PW". *LOL* And I can't change my username at WCG to the one I'm using here (and on all other BOINC projects) because it's already taken.

Btw: this disturbes me also in another way because BOINCstats takes my WCG username for my overall BOINC statistic. Drat!
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2007-12-02 03:09:05

Btw: this disturbes me also in another way because BOINCstats takes my WCG username for my overall BOINC statistic. Drat!

If you use a custom sig you can set your name to anything you want even if it is not a name you crunch with.
BOINC WIKI

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ebahapo
 
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2008-08-22 16:29:34

I guess that BAM uses the e-mail address when communicating with projects, but I wonder if it could use and alternative user name when communicating with WCG. If so, an alternative user name could be added to the profile to use with WCG if the main one fails.

I know that WCG with its custom server makes it hard on everybody, but after years that BAM and WCG have been around, it's time for a solution to be provided. This is getting really old...

TIA
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2008-08-25 18:40:47

I guess that BAM uses the e-mail address when communicating with projects, but I wonder if it could use and alternative user name when communicating with WCG. If so, an alternative user name could be added to the profile to use with WCG if the main one fails.

I know that WCG with its custom server makes it hard on everybody, but after years that BAM and WCG have been around, it's time for a solution to be provided. This is getting really old...

TIA


I just started looking into an account manager for BOINC since I have several machines that I manage in different locations. BAM does what I need, but with out support for WCG then it's of no use. I only running WCG and Seti on my machines so if BAM cant manage WCG then there's no point in using it.
[BOINCstats] Willy
 
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2008-08-25 18:52:05

You can still get your WCG account into BAM!, but it has to have the same username and password as your BAM! account. Then you can use BAM! to attach/detach/NNW your host to/from/on WCG.
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ebahapo
 
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2008-08-25 19:12:52

You can still get your WCG account into BAM!, but it has to have the same username and password as your BAM! account. Then you can use BAM! to attach/detach/NNW your host to/from/on WCG.

Users have been using their names far before WCG came around, so some, like me, would rather not change it.

I just find your reluctance in handling WCG quirks... interesting.
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2008-08-25 19:22:49

You can still get your WCG account into BAM!, but it has to have the same username and password as your BAM! account. Then you can use BAM! to attach/detach/NNW your host to/from/on WCG.

Users have been using their names far before WCG came around, so some, like me, would rather not change it.

I just find your reluctance in handling WCG quirks... interesting.

It's not Willys reluctance, it's WCGs non-conformity.
WCG is far longer around then BOINC, they don't want to change all their settings just because this new kid on the block
It was always username, not mail addy for them to register, I think they'll stick with it and you have to live with it for the next future.
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mprindle
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2008-08-25 19:30:18

You can still get your WCG account into BAM!, but it has to have the same username and password as your BAM! account. Then you can use BAM! to attach/detach/NNW your host to/from/on WCG.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but BAM can't modify settings on WCG correct? I'm talking resource usage, the machine prefs, the global school and work prefs.
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2008-08-25 19:33:53
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It's not Willys reluctance, it's WCGs non-conformity.

We all know that WCG will not change; this thread is over 2 years old, which does make Willy's reluctance to special-case WCG... interesting.

Thanks.
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2008-08-25 19:50:48

It's not Willys reluctance, it's WCGs non-conformity.

We all know that WCG will not change; this thread is over 2 years old, which does make Willy's reluctance to special-case WCG... interesting.

Thanks.

So what's he supposed to do if they don't work with account managers for account creation?
And if they don't change their unique username habit?
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ebahapo
 
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2008-08-25 20:18:29

So what's he supposed to do if they don't work with account managers for account creation?
And if they don't change their unique username habit?

Have you read the rest of the thread before posting? Try this, then.
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2008-08-30 09:05:23

It's not Willys reluctance, it's WCGs non-conformity.

We all know that WCG will not change; this thread is over 2 years old, which does make Willy's reluctance to special-case WCG... interesting.

Thanks.

If WCG is not willing to change, then why should BAM! do
I think there should be understanding from both sides - they make some changes so it will be easier for BAM! to communicate with them, and Willy makes some too so WCG support will be increased. If they are so stubborn and refuse to make such changes, do not expect all the changes to be made by Willy
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2008-09-08 21:48:48


If WCG is not willing to change, then why should BAM! do

Well, BOINC Manager changed, BoincView changed, why should not BAM! too?
[BOINCstats] Willy
 
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2008-09-09 04:49:02


If WCG is not willing to change, then why should BAM! do

Well, BOINC Manager changed, BoincView changed, why should not BAM! too?


They were not adapted to WCG (at least not the manager). All server-side functions to support the manager are implemented by WCG.
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2008-09-09 14:54:54

They were not adapted to WCG (at least not the manager). All server-side functions to support the manager are implemented by WCG.

When attaching to WCG, both tools ask for an username, instead of for an email address, as they do for the other projects.

WCG has been around before BOINC has and they have their own legacy issues to deal with. It's very reliable and because of this it attracts many high-profile projects. Therefore it's very unlikely that WCG would change its interface and annoy thousands of volunteers and several key partners.

You insist that one's BAM username should coincide with his WCG username. Even though I appreciate your efforts with BAM, I don't really think that it's reasonable for you to drag your feet on treating WCG as a special case.

Thanks.
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2009-06-01 13:35:54

I reached this thread because I was looking for a means to add my already existing WCG to BAM.

When I first joined BAM I was unpleased by the requirement of having the same username and password in a project to "locate" it and add it to BAM. This not only casts a security threat, but is also impossible, as it is the case with WCG.

I guess BAM should allow for specifying a username and password for the project's account being "located" and added to BAM.
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2009-06-12 18:43:44

ahmad wrote:
When I first joined BAM I was unpleased by the requirement of having the same username and password in a project to "locate" it and add it to BAM. This not only casts a security threat, but is also impossible, as it is the case with WCG.

I guess BAM should allow for specifying a username and password for the project's account being "located" and added to BAM.


I just started using BAM! and was surprised that it did not ask me for my user names and passwords for the various project accounts (mine are all different) and it consequently, could not locate my accounts. Sadly, I have had to stop using BAM!.
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2009-06-14 02:29:16

BAM! works on the idea that you are using the same username and password on all of your projects. Thus, why your accounts weren't found.

I know that keeping the same username across projects helps a lot, but is there any way that BAM! could have a "migration utility" that would bring the account details into line? Like, you enter your username and password for any projects it can't log on to, and then it fixes them for you?
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